Here Come the Feds (cont’d): Marines at DUI Roadblocks

Posted by Lawrence Taylor on December 16th, 2008

I’ve posted in the past about the increasing federalization of drunk driving laws and law enforcement procedures.  See Here Come the Feds and The Future of DUI.  But even I wasn’t ready for the latest development…

The U.S. Marines have landed…and are apparently manning "sobriety checkpoints" in San Bernardino County in California.  Yes, Marines.  Yes, civilian DUI roadblocks. 

From an official December 10th California Highway Patrol public relations release:


CHP to Conduct Sobriety/Driver’s License Checkpoint

The Morongo office of the California Highway Patrol (CHP) in conjunction with the  San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department and the USMC military police will conduct a joint sobriety/driver license checkpoint on Friday, December 12, 2008, somewhere in the unincorporated/incorporated area of San Bernardino County.


As an American citizen, not to mention a former Marine, I find this troubling — particularly in view of the clear wording of the Posse Comitatus act of 1878, described in Wikipedia:


The Posse Comitatus Act is a  United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services  (the Army, Air Force and State national Guard forces (when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) in the former Confederate states.

The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act.


A follow-up call to a Marine Corps public affairs sergeant resulted in assurances that the Marines would be there "as observers".   Hmmmm…..military observers.  Isn’t that how it all starts?


Thanks to Branson Hunter and Andre.

 

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Comments

  1. I found this on “Posse Comitatus” and found it to be an interesting lesson :

    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Civil_Liberties/Posse_Comitatus_Law.html

    Comment by standup — December 18, 2008 @ 9:45 am

  2. As cities, states and the Federal government lose money from tax revenue, look for increased actions such as these, not to keep the streets safe, but to get money for government programs. Marines at traffic stops, shorter yellow lights at intersections, lower blood alcohol levels and so forth are goign to become the norm.

    Comment by joe — December 18, 2008 @ 9:55 am

  3. Just some thoughts on this. San Bernadino County is home to 29 Palms training center, which hosts large numbers of Marines for training. The Marines in question would be MP’s who have the authority to deal with any military personnel they encounter whether on a military base or not. Having MP’s work with civilian police in areas heavily populated by military personnel has ample precent, but is declining due to cost and a much better disciplined military.

    Comment by j6428 — January 13, 2009 @ 3:01 pm

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