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		<title>By: Lawrence Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.duiblog.com/2007/06/13/report-breathalyzers-outdated-unstable-unreliable/comment-page-1/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trooper5157,

If I understand your (rhetorical) question, you are suggesting that I present a complete course in correct DUI investigation with a single blog post.  Perhaps you can appreciate the futility of that when I point out that much of my 1242-page book deals with that question.

I take your &quot;question&quot; as to whether I can envision any DUI arrest as valid to be similarly rhetorical.  My answer, however, is that cops are human: many are poorly trained and/or less than conscientious, some are incompetent, lazy or dishonest.  Let me ask you in return:  Do you really believe that all DUI arrests are valid?  That all officers are competent, well-trained and honest in their reports and testimony?  And if not, then who -- if not a defense attorney -- will ever reveal that in any given case?  And what -- if not the prospect of cross-examination -- will ever serve to motivate cops to do things right?

Yes, I believe the majority of those arrested are probably guilty.  And after 37 years of prosecuting and defending, I also believe that there are more innocent people arrested for this offense than for any other.  And I believe the level of competence among officers handling DUI investigations is generally lower than in other areas of law enforcement.

Every attorney in my firm is law enforcement-certified in operation of PAS/PBT breath alcohol devices.  Every attorney in my firm is NHTSA-certified in standardized field sobriety tests.  And few of the officers they are cross-examining are.  Why not?

So, Trooper,  maybe the answer to your rhetorical question about how I would &quot;suggest to a police officer how fair and accurate DUI arrests can be made&quot; is also a bit rhetorical:  Read my book, and get at least the training my attorneys get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trooper5157,</p>
<p>If I understand your (rhetorical) question, you are suggesting that I present a complete course in correct DUI investigation with a single blog post.  Perhaps you can appreciate the futility of that when I point out that much of my 1242-page book deals with that question.</p>
<p>I take your &#8220;question&#8221; as to whether I can envision any DUI arrest as valid to be similarly rhetorical.  My answer, however, is that cops are human: many are poorly trained and/or less than conscientious, some are incompetent, lazy or dishonest.  Let me ask you in return:  Do you really believe that all DUI arrests are valid?  That all officers are competent, well-trained and honest in their reports and testimony?  And if not, then who &#8212; if not a defense attorney &#8212; will ever reveal that in any given case?  And what &#8212; if not the prospect of cross-examination &#8212; will ever serve to motivate cops to do things right?</p>
<p>Yes, I believe the majority of those arrested are probably guilty.  And after 37 years of prosecuting and defending, I also believe that there are more innocent people arrested for this offense than for any other.  And I believe the level of competence among officers handling DUI investigations is generally lower than in other areas of law enforcement.</p>
<p>Every attorney in my firm is law enforcement-certified in operation of PAS/PBT breath alcohol devices.  Every attorney in my firm is NHTSA-certified in standardized field sobriety tests.  And few of the officers they are cross-examining are.  Why not?</p>
<p>So, Trooper,  maybe the answer to your rhetorical question about how I would &#8220;suggest to a police officer how fair and accurate DUI arrests can be made&#8221; is also a bit rhetorical:  Read my book, and get at least the training my attorneys get.</p>
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		<title>By: saltypig</title>
		<link>http://www.duiblog.com/2007/06/13/report-breathalyzers-outdated-unstable-unreliable/comment-page-1/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>saltypig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trooper5157, &quot;officers who focus their efforts on DUI enforcment&quot; should not only be mocked, but scorned. DUI is a money and power scam, intended to enslave people for arbitrary blood values, not dangerous behavior. This is not obvious to you, watching the spiraling machinations of the ruling class (e.g., you, apparently) over the last 10-15 years? The parameters of a DUI scam victim&#039;s blood are entirely irrelevant. If safety is the goal, and one accepts that states are to administer highways (an unfortunate fiction), driving behavior â€” not blood content â€” is the only relevant indicator.

If a man is driving so dangerously as to pose an obvious hazard to others, what does his blood matter? Why participate in pricey charades attempting to prove through &quot;objective&quot; measurement that he&#039;s a dangerous driver? It&#039;s faulty beyond even childish reason. Note: Intelligent people are not fooled; we know cops and judges are the new criminal class, albeit a badged/robed one. The entire premise is bunk, and you&#039;ve apparently bought into it and made a living from it. Disgraceful.

How may a &quot;police officer&quot; make a fair and accurate DUI arrest? There is no such thing. If the official criminal syndicate known as &quot;government&quot; will not stand down completely, it should focus on behavior, not blood content. Given behavior so thinly indicative of malfunction that you must stoop to pretending you&#039;re a roadside medical examiner, there isn&#039;t much of a case for driver deficiency. However, show jurors a video of someone driving dangerously, regardless of the reason, and free people may start to have the slightest respect for the ruling class (our vacuous lords).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trooper5157, &#8220;officers who focus their efforts on DUI enforcment&#8221; should not only be mocked, but scorned. DUI is a money and power scam, intended to enslave people for arbitrary blood values, not dangerous behavior. This is not obvious to you, watching the spiraling machinations of the ruling class (e.g., you, apparently) over the last 10-15 years? The parameters of a DUI scam victim&#8217;s blood are entirely irrelevant. If safety is the goal, and one accepts that states are to administer highways (an unfortunate fiction), driving behavior â€” not blood content â€” is the only relevant indicator.</p>
<p>If a man is driving so dangerously as to pose an obvious hazard to others, what does his blood matter? Why participate in pricey charades attempting to prove through &#8220;objective&#8221; measurement that he&#8217;s a dangerous driver? It&#8217;s faulty beyond even childish reason. Note: Intelligent people are not fooled; we know cops and judges are the new criminal class, albeit a badged/robed one. The entire premise is bunk, and you&#8217;ve apparently bought into it and made a living from it. Disgraceful.</p>
<p>How may a &#8220;police officer&#8221; make a fair and accurate DUI arrest? There is no such thing. If the official criminal syndicate known as &#8220;government&#8221; will not stand down completely, it should focus on behavior, not blood content. Given behavior so thinly indicative of malfunction that you must stoop to pretending you&#8217;re a roadside medical examiner, there isn&#8217;t much of a case for driver deficiency. However, show jurors a video of someone driving dangerously, regardless of the reason, and free people may start to have the slightest respect for the ruling class (our vacuous lords).</p>
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		<title>By: Trooper5157</title>
		<link>http://www.duiblog.com/2007/06/13/report-breathalyzers-outdated-unstable-unreliable/comment-page-1/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>Trooper5157</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Taylor, 

If you would, please take time to devote just one blog entry on how you may suggest to a police officer how fair and accurate DUI arrests can be made.  

I suspect that you believe some drivers to be legitimately under the influence of alcohol.  Speaking strictly to the thought of a clearly and absolutely drunk driver, how would you suggest the officer stop, investigate and ultimately arrest that driver.  

Your website seems focused on disregarding every tool, every method, every way of training an officer has at his/her disposal.  Is there no valid way, no legitimate circumstance, in which you envision a driver being arrested for DUI?  What do you accept as a valid DUI arrest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Taylor, </p>
<p>If you would, please take time to devote just one blog entry on how you may suggest to a police officer how fair and accurate DUI arrests can be made.  </p>
<p>I suspect that you believe some drivers to be legitimately under the influence of alcohol.  Speaking strictly to the thought of a clearly and absolutely drunk driver, how would you suggest the officer stop, investigate and ultimately arrest that driver.  </p>
<p>Your website seems focused on disregarding every tool, every method, every way of training an officer has at his/her disposal.  Is there no valid way, no legitimate circumstance, in which you envision a driver being arrested for DUI?  What do you accept as a valid DUI arrest?</p>
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		<title>By: Trooper5157</title>
		<link>http://www.duiblog.com/2007/06/13/report-breathalyzers-outdated-unstable-unreliable/comment-page-1/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Trooper5157</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely there are legitimate impaired, &quot;drunk&quot;, drivers out there.   Equally as sure is that there are well trained, professional, police officers out there.  Is it possible that Mr. Taylor could ever envision an absolutely valid DUI arrest?  

Rather than mock officers who focus their efforts on DUI enforcment (&quot;supercops&quot;), Mr. Taylor could take some time to consider that possibly, just maybe, one of his clients may actually be guilty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely there are legitimate impaired, &#8220;drunk&#8221;, drivers out there.   Equally as sure is that there are well trained, professional, police officers out there.  Is it possible that Mr. Taylor could ever envision an absolutely valid DUI arrest?  </p>
<p>Rather than mock officers who focus their efforts on DUI enforcment (&#8220;supercops&#8221;), Mr. Taylor could take some time to consider that possibly, just maybe, one of his clients may actually be guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: barockoiu</title>
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		<dc:creator>barockoiu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Taylor hello. Impressed to find your interesting blog.

I am an Australian man, living in Australia, and was caught DUI in May 2006. I was fined 800 australian dollars about 700 US, and it was my first offence. My licence was cancelled for 13 months. I was forced to pay a further 130 dollars for a &#039;drink driving course&#039;, an eight hour forced training course. Then I had to pay 70 dollars to the court for the privilege of convincing the judge I was not a habitual drinker, then 40 dollars for a plastic licence card with my photo on it. For the next three years I must have a zero bac. My bac was .10 and the legal limit in my state of victoria is .05

The law was changed on January 1 this year, if I committed the same offense, I would be forced to have an interlock for six months also.

If I had have been six months older at the time I was detected DUI I would not have had to go to court and &#039;ask for my licence back&#039;

Interlocks in my state have a 400 dollar install fee, and a monthly &#039;rental&#039; fee of 180 dollars. 

There was a case of a man who was poor and whose car was worth 6000 dollars, was stolen and he was held liable for the 20,000 dollar interlock device. He was never advised that he needed to insure the device, nor was he informed of its alleged &#039;value&#039;.

There is no competition in the shrouded state controlled &#039;rental&#039; market of interlock devices, and also sirens are fitted to cars to embarrass the driver if he blows a BAC into the interlock. The device requires the driver to stop and pull over and blow again every ten minutes during an hour of driving.

In my home state of Victoria they are also doing now random drug swab saliva tests for cannabis and mdma, and meth

police in australia don&#039;t need probable cause to pull a driver over

and opening the door at your home is legally an invitation for police to enter your home

all relicenced drink drivers who attend a forced education course have to also allow the police to arrive unannounced at thier home, invite them in, and &#039;talk&#039; about thier &#039;alcohol habits&#039;

You have a bill of rights. We don&#039;t.

Keep updating your blog sir, it is important work.

I firmly believe australia will have a global zero BAC within 20 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Taylor hello. Impressed to find your interesting blog.</p>
<p>I am an Australian man, living in Australia, and was caught DUI in May 2006. I was fined 800 australian dollars about 700 US, and it was my first offence. My licence was cancelled for 13 months. I was forced to pay a further 130 dollars for a &#8216;drink driving course&#8217;, an eight hour forced training course. Then I had to pay 70 dollars to the court for the privilege of convincing the judge I was not a habitual drinker, then 40 dollars for a plastic licence card with my photo on it. For the next three years I must have a zero bac. My bac was .10 and the legal limit in my state of victoria is .05</p>
<p>The law was changed on January 1 this year, if I committed the same offense, I would be forced to have an interlock for six months also.</p>
<p>If I had have been six months older at the time I was detected DUI I would not have had to go to court and &#8216;ask for my licence back&#8217;</p>
<p>Interlocks in my state have a 400 dollar install fee, and a monthly &#8216;rental&#8217; fee of 180 dollars. </p>
<p>There was a case of a man who was poor and whose car was worth 6000 dollars, was stolen and he was held liable for the 20,000 dollar interlock device. He was never advised that he needed to insure the device, nor was he informed of its alleged &#8216;value&#8217;.</p>
<p>There is no competition in the shrouded state controlled &#8216;rental&#8217; market of interlock devices, and also sirens are fitted to cars to embarrass the driver if he blows a BAC into the interlock. The device requires the driver to stop and pull over and blow again every ten minutes during an hour of driving.</p>
<p>In my home state of Victoria they are also doing now random drug swab saliva tests for cannabis and mdma, and meth</p>
<p>police in australia don&#8217;t need probable cause to pull a driver over</p>
<p>and opening the door at your home is legally an invitation for police to enter your home</p>
<p>all relicenced drink drivers who attend a forced education course have to also allow the police to arrive unannounced at thier home, invite them in, and &#8216;talk&#8217; about thier &#8216;alcohol habits&#8217;</p>
<p>You have a bill of rights. We don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Keep updating your blog sir, it is important work.</p>
<p>I firmly believe australia will have a global zero BAC within 20 years.</p>
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