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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;The Suspect&#8217;s Speech Was Slurred&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 22:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This motion may be more appropriate to a 402 motion in limine than a 1538.5 motion to suppress, Nelson, but whatever works....
The California Evidence Code provides no grounds for admissibility called &quot;It&#039;s always been done that way&quot;.&#160; The simple fact is that the proponent of the evidence -- the prosecutor -- has the burden of laying a foundation: You do not have the burden of showing there is no foundation.
Having said the obvious,&#160;you and I both know the political/judicial realities of life in the California trenches.&#160; You&#039;ve probably got an ex-D.A. on the bench, or one who wants MADD&#039;s approval come election time, and so you get rulings like &quot;It&#039;s always been done this way, counselor&quot; or the&#160;fallback cliche &quot;That goes to the weight, not the admissibility&quot;.&#160; The only remedy is to make sure the record is clear, and hope the appellate justices understand the issues and apply the law.&#160; And yes, I well know&#160;how frustrating it all is....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a></a>This motion may be more appropriate to a 402 motion in limine than a 1538.5 motion to suppress, Nelson, but whatever works&#8230;.<br />
The California Evidence Code provides no grounds for admissibility called &#8220;It&#8217;s always been done that way&#8221;.&nbsp; The simple fact is that the proponent of the evidence &#8212; the prosecutor &#8212; has the burden of laying a foundation: You do not have the burden of showing there is no foundation.<br />
Having said the obvious,&nbsp;you and I both know the political/judicial realities of life in the California trenches.&nbsp; You&#8217;ve probably got an ex-D.A. on the bench, or one who wants MADD&#8217;s approval come election time, and so you get rulings like &#8220;It&#8217;s always been done this way, counselor&#8221; or the&nbsp;fallback cliche &#8220;That goes to the weight, not the admissibility&#8221;.&nbsp; The only remedy is to make sure the record is clear, and hope the appellate justices understand the issues and apply the law.&nbsp; And yes, I well know&nbsp;how frustrating it all is&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson McElmurry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nelson McElmurry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;It makes me sick to see the routine cookie cutter police reports and DS-367 form where everyone demonstrates slurred speech, red, watery eyes, etc.&#160; Question:&#160; Has anyone had any luck challenging the FSTs in a 1538.5?&#160; I just lost one where my client supposedly failed walk-turn, HGN, and one leg stand.&#160; No PAS was given, and he blew .12 on the Alcotest.&#160;The court wouldn&#039;t let me make foundational challenges as to the methodology and reliability&#160;of the&#160;FSTs since &quot;they&#039;ve been used for years.&quot;&#160; I still pointed out flaws in the cops administration of the FSTs, his knowledge of them, and even his recording of the results.&#160; Yet, I still lost.&#160; (Although I was able to knock out two of the three factors which he relied on to make the stop in the first place, a Pyrrhic victory of sorts.)&#160; How can a sucessful FST challenge at a 1538.5 be mounted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a></a>It makes me sick to see the routine cookie cutter police reports and DS-367 form where everyone demonstrates slurred speech, red, watery eyes, etc.&nbsp; Question:&nbsp; Has anyone had any luck challenging the FSTs in a 1538.5?&nbsp; I just lost one where my client supposedly failed walk-turn, HGN, and one leg stand.&nbsp; No PAS was given, and he blew .12 on the Alcotest.&nbsp;The court wouldn&#8217;t let me make foundational challenges as to the methodology and reliability&nbsp;of the&nbsp;FSTs since &#8220;they&#8217;ve been used for years.&#8221;&nbsp; I still pointed out flaws in the cops administration of the FSTs, his knowledge of them, and even his recording of the results.&nbsp; Yet, I still lost.&nbsp; (Although I was able to knock out two of the three factors which he relied on to make the stop in the first place, a Pyrrhic victory of sorts.)&nbsp; How can a sucessful FST challenge at a 1538.5 be mounted?</p>
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